[Baseball History] Not really trivia II
Ford Fricks Asterisk : April 14, 2007 12:43 AM

OK Swampy, now that it seems you've resolved the questions about combined age of pitching batteries, here's one you should enjoy.

While watching Giants highlights, it occurred to me that Omar Vizquel and Ray Durham must be one of the oldest double-play combos that have ever played (at least regularly).

So as a starting point, I went with Alan Trammell and Lou Whitaker. If I did my math correctly, they were actually one day shy of a combined age of 76 when they last took the field together on Oct. 1, 1995. Vizquel and Durham should pass that right after the All-Star break this year.

However, I haven't done any other research to determine who the oldest combo to ever play (or play regularly) was. So have at it.


Ford Fricks Asterisk : April 14, 2007 08:35 AM

Ozzie Smith and Mike Gallego: Sept. 22, 1996. 77 years, 231 days.

Vizquel and Durham will have to play together in late May of next year to pass that.

Ford Fricks Asterisk : April 14, 2007 06:42 PM

Others in the 75-76 combined years range:

Retrosheet doesn't have box scores for these, so I can't pin down exact dates or say for sure they played together, but...

'33 Braves: 2B Rabbit Maranville (age 41) was a starter (142 g), so he was likely on the field for at least some of Hod Ford's (age 35) 5 games at short. Combined age 76+

'35 Braves: Maranville (43) and SS Billy Urbanski (32). Combined age: 75+

'49 (& '50?) White Sox: Floyd Baker appeared at 2B in a few games during the last couple seasons of Luke Appling's career, and chances are that Appling at was short during at least one of those games. Combined age 75-76.

There might have been some others, but I focused on combos where one of the two was at least 40, and as it turns out, any combo under 40 need not apply.

In 1985, Davey Lopes appeared at 2B for just one inning for the Cubs. It just so happened that the SS was veteran Larry Bowa instead of rookie Shawon Dunston. So on June 2, 1985, in the 8th inning, the Cubs put a double-play combo on the field of Lopes (40 yrs./31 days) and Bowa (39 yrs./179 days), for a combined age of 79 yrs. and 210 days.

Here is what's really great about retrosheet, though... after Enos Cabell (35) drew a walk, Phil Garner (36) hit a grounder to Bowa, who fed the ball to Lopes to start the 6-4-3 double-play.

If there's been an older DP combo, let alone one that actually turned a DP, I haven't found it yet.

triviamaster : April 16, 2007 09:12 PM

Whats the oldest combined outfield age???

tomhamilton : April 17, 2007 07:25 AM

I believe that was set just last year with the Giants. Bonds, Finley, and Alou were 41, 41, and 39 respectively.

Ford Fricks Asterisk : April 17, 2007 02:07 PM

Sadly, Randy Winn and Dave Roberts are the Giants idea of a youth movement. They probably still have the oldest outfield in the majors.

Swampudlian : April 17, 2007 03:20 PM

I almost hate to mention it, but I'd have to wonder if Julio Franco has been on the receiving end of the oldest double play in major league history (whether that be 5-4-3, 6-4-3, 4-6-3 or some other combination... Glavine to Jose Valentin to Julio Franco? Has that one happened? That'd be an awfully high number...)

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